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July 8, 2007

Israel & Middle East
Israel to carry its story directly to Iranian public with new Persian website

Italy's Prime Minister Prodi, China delegation are official visitors to Israel

IDF's Givati Brigade captures 8 Qassam missile launchers in Gaza search

Australia's Foreign Minister Alexander
Downer explains support for Israel


Commentary

Holocaust denial paves way for anti-Israel war

Sports
6 + 21 + 48 + 81 not Gematria but  where four Jewish major leaguers placed in batting and pitching statistics

Tel Aviv Lightning snaps Bet Shemesh Blue Sox undefeated streak at 9 games on Pribble's pitching

Israel to tell its story directly to Iranian public with new Persian website
JERUSALEM (Press Release)—The web-launching ceremony of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' new Persian-language website will take place tomorrow (Monday 9-Jul) at 12:00 P.M. Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Livni and MFA Director-General Aharon Abramovitch will both attend the ceremony.

The website constitutes part of the MFA's diplomatic effort to reveal the true Israel to the Iranian public, who for many years has been denied any unbiased information about the country, while at the same time being exposed to hateful, distorted and deceptive information by the Iranian regime.

The new website, named HAMDAMI which in Persian means "camaraderie" is to be located at:
https:/hamdami.com

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The launching ceremony marks the end of a prolonged process that took most of a year. The project was initiated by Israel's ambassador to Dublin, Dr. Zion Evroni, in his previous position as head of the Political Planning Division.

The website will be managed by the Arabic Communications Department of the MFA's Information and Media Division. Mr. Menashe Amir, formerly head of the Israel Broadcasting Authority's Persian language division, was appointed as chief editor of the new website.

The preceding story was provided by Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
 

Israel and Middle East

Italy's Prime Minister Prodi, China delegation are official visitors to Israel

JERUSALEM (Press Release)—Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi arrives Sunday evening  in Israel on an official visit.  He was welcomed at Ben-Gurion  International Airport by Health Minister Yaacov Ben-Yizri. 

During his visit, Prodi will meet with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Likud Chairman MK Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and President-Elect Shimon Peres.

Prime Minister Prodi is scheduled to visit the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial. He will also plant a tree in the Jerusalem Forest Grove of Nations and lay a wreath at late Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's grave.
Romano Prodi
On Saturday, a delegation of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Chinese National People's Congress, headed by the Vice-Chairman of the committee, Yang Guoliang, arrived in Israel on a four-day official visit. This is a reciprocal visit to the visit to Beijing of the Chairman of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs & Defense Committee, MK Tzachi Hanegbi, in the summer of 2006.

During their visit, the members of the delegation will meet with President-Elect Peres, Deputy Speaker of the Knesset Majalli Whbee, Chairman of the Parliamentary Friendship Association, MK Dani Yatom, MK Tzachi Hanegbi and Director-General of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Aharon Abramovitch.

The delegation members will tour the Golan Heights and the site on the northern border where Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser were abducted.

The National People's Congress is China's legislative body, and is appointed by the Party for a period of five years. The NPC convenes once a year, in March, and includes some 3000 representatives from all over China. The representatives originate from different sectors of the population, from different factions of the party, from non-party organizations and from the army. Between plenary sessions, current affairs are handled by the 159 members of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress, headed by the Chairman of the NPC, Wu Bangguo and 15 deputies.

The preceding article combined materials provided by Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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IDF's Givati Brigade captures 8 Qassam
missile launchers in Gaza reconnaissance

 

BET HANUN, Gaza (Press Release) --The reconnaissance unit of Israel’s Givati Brigade uncovered eight Qassam rocket launchers during recent operations in the town of Bet Hanun located in the Gaza Strip. 
 
The launchers were equipped with timers and one set to launch.  "We entered the Gaza Strip in middle of the week.  We received orders to search for and locate the launchers threatening Sderot," said the Lieutenant Commander of  the Givati Company.

 "During night time operations we discovered eight Qassam rocket launchers that were facing towards
Captured Qassams
the town of Sderot.  One of the rocket launchers set to launch, a Qassam rocket in place, positioned towards Sderot."

  The preceding story and photo were provided by Israel Defense Forces




Australia's Foreign Minister Alexander
Downer explains support for Israel

(Editor's Note: Alexander Downer was granted an honorary doctorate by Bar Ilan University on June 26 during a ceremony at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in conjunction with the Israel-Australia Chamber of Commerce Dinner. Since then the text of this speech by a Christian supporter of Israel has been flying around the internet.  We reprint it here in case you missed it)

By Alexander Downer

JERUSALEM—I can only say that tonight is a very important evening for me and I feel very touched by the great honour that's been bestowed on me by Bar Ilan University.  I feel that it's exciting on the one hand but I feel very humbled by it as well - perhaps a little undeserving.  I did get an honours degree at university but my wife says to me that "Darling, you're now a doctor but you've not done a stroke of work towards a thesis".  When I graduated as an undergraduate I thought that was enough university and it was time to go out and make money and I failed at that and went into politics [laughter].  Anyway, I've come full circle and now I'm a doctor and so I appreciate the great honour.

A lot of people ask me why I seem to be so committed to Israel - I mean, I'm a Christian, not Jewish and although I remember staying here in this hotel about three years ago ... and I think I could almost be described as an honorary Jew with a lot of the views that I hold about the issues that Jewish people confront.  But a lot of people do ask me why I am so committed to Israel.  And I think there are a variety of explanations for that.  One of them  is a
Alexander Downer
bit historic and I think some of you have heard me say this before.  When I was a child at school and subsequently when I went to university in England, for no particular reason, Jewish people seemed to befriend me as some other people did as well [laughter], but I seemed to have quite a lot of Jewish friends.

When I was at university I shared a house with four people. One of them was a New Zealander, one of them was Jewish - her name is Judy - and a Scotsman.  This was in 1972-73, that sort of time, the significance being 1973.  And Judy had a cousin come and stay with her from Israel.  And it was at the time, just as the cousin came, the Yom Kippur War broke out.  And I remember this just as though it were yesterday, going down into our little kitchenette - imagine a student's kitchen how completely disgusting it was, with washing up not done for about four days, just a complete mess really, and we ate such disgusting food as well.  Judy's sitting there in her dressing gown with her cousin from Israel and the cousin from Israel had tears in her eyes.  They were both listening to BBC radio, to the details of the Yom Kippur War and you'll remember better than I do how in the early days it wasn't going so well.  This cousin of Judy's brother was in the Israeli army and - you know all of this so much better than I do.

But I was tremendously struck by the power of the moment.  I was tremendously struck by the Jewish people, as in the Israelis in this case, under siege and so unreasonably in my view - now some people will criticise me for that - but I think completely unreasonably under siege in the way that they were and suffering so much yet again after all the wars that they'd been through. And, I don't know, it seemed to me that somebody had sometimes to stick up for the Israeli people and as the years have gone by the cause of Israel has, in many countries around the world, become decreasingly fashionable.  I don't think there's any doubt about that.  It hasn't changed my mind that it's become decreasingly fashionable, in fact I've never claimed to be fashionable, I've just tried to do what I thought was the right thing. 
(Jump to continuation)

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Holocaust denial paves way for anti-Israel war

By Alex Grobman, PhD

ENGLEWOOD, N.J.—Last December, the Iranian government held a two-day conference ostensibly to discuss the Holocaust in an open environment where all sides of the story could be analyzed. Aside from well-known Holocaust deniers, no Holocaust scholars wer in attendance. The conference raised a number of questions: Why has Holocaust denial become popular in the Middle East? Why did Iran the conference? How can we respond to those who seek to deny our past?    

According to Itamar Marcus, who monitors and reports on media of the Palestinian Authority, the objective of Arab Holocaust denial is to reject the connection of the Jewish people to their immediate history, erode the legitimacy of Israel, and allow the Arabs “to appropriate the role of historical victim and… apply it to themselves. Television and modern technology have provided authoritative vehicles for defaming and denying the Jewish people, their religion, history, nation, and land—in order to sever contemporary Jews from their past and the Land of Israel.”

"On the basis of this myth,” he noted a couple of months later, “the pillaging Zionist regime has managed, for 60 years, to extort all Western governments and to justify its crimes in the occupied lands - killing women and children, demolishing homes, and turning defenseless people into refugees.”

Why has Ahmadinejad become such an advocate of Holocaust denial? One plausible explanation historian Victor Hanson offers is that he understands the West’s fixation with “multiculturalism, moral equivalence and relativism.” As “a third world populist,” he assumes that his own fascist government will “escape scrutiny” if he continues to list the past misdeeds of the West. He also appreciates the importance of victimology. If he wants to annihilate Israel, Iran has to be seen as the victim—not Israel. He turns to the Europeans with a question:

"So we ask you: If you indeed committed this great crime, why should the oppressed people of Palestine be punished for it? If you committed a crime, you yourselves should pay for it." 

He knows that there are millions of educated people in the West who question the need for nuclear weapons and do not hold their culture in high regard. If the West can have nuclear weapons, why can’t Iran? "Your arsenals are full to the brim,” he says, “yet when it's the turn of a nation such as mine to develop peaceful nuclear technology you object and resort to threats.”

Ahmadinejad also understands that relativism has become part of Western thought. In this environment, who can be sure that the Holocaust was not overstated, the facts embellished or even made up in order to steal Palestinian land?

Iran’s success in analyzing “Western malaise” has persuaded them that they can create “a Holocaust-free reality,” enabling the Muslims to become the victims and “Jews the aggressors deserving punishment. And thus Ahmadinejad's righteously aggrieved (and nuclear) Iran can, after ‘hundreds of years of war,’ finally set things right in the Middle East. And then a world that wishes to continue to make money and drive cars in peace won't much care how this divinely appointed holy man finally finishes a bothersome "war of destiny."

Rather than wring our hands in frustration, we should seize the opportunity to teach about Holocaust denial, which is a threat to the way we transmit history to future generations. If the history of the Jewish people can be distorted, so can the history of other groups. Holocaust deniers seek to make Fascism and National Socialism legitimate alternatives to democracy, which makes this a problem for all those who cherish a democratic way of life.

Dr. Alex Grobman is co-author of Denying History: Who Says The Holocaust Never Happens And Why Do They Say It? which exposes the techniques used by Holocaust deniers. His latest book is Nations United: How The UN Undermines Israel and the West.

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  Jews in the News  
 
 
Like you, we're pleased when members of our community are praiseworthy, and are disappointed when they are blameworthy. Whether it's good news or bad news, we'll try to keep track of what's being said in general media about our fellow Jews. Our news spotters are Dan Brin in Los Angeles, Donald H. Harrison in San Diego, and you. Wherever you are,  if you see a story of interest, please send a summary and link to us at sdheritage@cox.net and we'll acknowledge your tip at the end of the column. To see a source story click on the link within the respective paragraph.

*Aaron Feldman gave what was described as his first interview ever to the San Diego Union-Tribune but limited the subjects to the businesses owned by Sunroad Enterprises.  The profile by Jeff McDonald and David Hasemyer of the businessman whose building at Montgomery Field has been the storm center of controversy is in today's San Diego Union-Tribune.  In a separate story, Jennifer Vigil reports that a consortium of companies including Sunroad has been involved in the planning of Otay Mesa, prompting some allegations of conflict of interest.
  
*Islamic terrorists have conducted operations against the following countries: the United States, Britain, Israel, Afghanistan, Indonesia, the Philippines, Morocco, Iraq, Turkey, Russia, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Jordan, Tunisia, Pakistan. In today's San Diego Union-Tribune, Jonathan Gurwitz of the San Antonio Express-News offers an
analysis of the ideology/ theology that drives it.
  
*U.S. President George W. Bush's grant of clemency to I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby was a departure from his standard as governor of Texas when he limited such grants to cases in which there was an actual doubt about the convict's guilt or innocence. The
story by Adam Liptak of the New York Times News Service is in today's San Diego Union-Tribune.
  
*Valerie Scher, classical music critic of the San Diego Union-Tribune, in a
story today recalls the life and San Diego connections of opera diva Beverly Sills.

 


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BUSINESS BRIEFS—Andy Cooper, owner of Karman Ltd. sign company in Los Angeles, has completed installing all the interior signage for UCSD's Rady Business School.  When you figure all the classrooms, bathrooms, stairwell signs, exits, and directional signs in a two story building, his company made more than 400 individual signs.  The company also is working on the signage at Santa Fe Summit , a five-building commercial complex off State Route 56 between Interstate 5 and Interstate 15.  Cooper says two buildings re completed with three to go.

   
     
Bernstein     Sondheim         Robbins         Rodgers         Hammerstein      Hamlisch

CULTURAL ICONS—What would summer entertainment be without some of the great Jewish names in theatre? For example, the Christian (yes, you read that right) Community Theatre offers Leonard Bernstein's West Side Story, with  lyrics by Stephen Sondheim and choreography of Jerome Robbins, July 12-28 at the East County Performing Arts Center in El Cajon.  Moonlight Stage Productions will also stage that classic August 15-26 at the Moonlight Amphitheatre in Vista. ...Rodgers and Hammerstein's Oklahoma will be staged July 20-22, 26-29 by the American Rose Theatre at the Kit Carson Park Amphitheatre, behind the North County Faire in Escondido.  Same venue, same composers, but on Aug. 10-Sept. 2  the production will be The King and I staged by the Patio Playhouse Community Theatre. ... Marvin Hamlisch conducts the San Diego Symphony's Summer Pops in some of his favorite movie music, including The Wizard of Oz and the Way We Were, July 27-28.

CYBER-REFERRALS—Hillel Mazansky found this video of Andre Rieu playing violin and conducting Hava Nagila as perhaps no one has heard it before:


DEAD SEA SCROLLS—With an art lover's discerning eye, critic Robert L. Pincus of the San Diego Union-Tribune discusses in a
column today the wisdom of the San Diego Natural History Museum in augmenting the Dead Sea Scrolls, which for all their importance "offer little in the way of visual drama." ... Arthur Salm, the Union-Tribune's book critic, found a nice linkage between the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition and Woody Allen's new book, The Insanity Defense: Collected Prose.  Salm noted in his review that one of Allen's essays imagines a suspicious set of scrolls being discovered near the Gulf of Aqaba. 
 

Sports

   The Jewish Sports Fan 


6 + 21 + 48 + 81 not Gematria but  where four Jewish major leaguers placed in batting and pitching statistics

Unless otherwise indicated, source for these stories is today's edition of The San Diego Union-Tribune, to which we gratefully provide the links below. We do not apply halacha to determine if a player is Jewish; rather, if he or she has a Jewish parent or has converted to the faith, we count him or her as a member of our community.

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Youkilis       Green          Kinsler         Marquis        Ausmus      Schoeneweis  Grabow

BASEBALL—We've been keeping you posted on how Kevin Youkilis has been doing in the tally of top hitters in the American League.  As of the end of play Friday, he was in sixth position with his .329 average.  But how are other Jewish baseball players doing? The San Diego Union-Tribune ran an expanded tally today, showing that among National League hitters Shawn Green of the New York Mets is currently 48th with a .275 BA and that in the American League Ian Kinsler of the Texas Rangers is 81st with a .241.  Only one Jewish pitcher made the statistician's cut: Jason Marquis of the Chicago Cubs has a 3.60 ERA, the 21st best in the National League.

Lots of averages changed in Saturday's play.  For example in the Mets marathon 17-inning 5-3 victory over the Houston Astros, Shawn Green collected 3 hits in 7 times at bat, sending his average up four points to .279.  For the Astros, Brad Ausmus went 0 for 6, dropping his average to .253.  He wasn't included in the expanded tally because batters needed to have been up at least 254 times to be counted.  But to give you an idea of how he's doing, a player with a .253 average would have place right around 70th in the National League.  Mets reliever Scott Schoeneweis retired two Astro batters, while giving up one hit and one walk, but happily for him no runs.  His ERA now is 5.57, and for comparison purposes, that would have put him about at the level of the 66th best pitcher in the National League. But to be included in the analysis, a pitcher had to have compiled at least eight decisions, and as a middle reliever Schoeneweis doesn't get many of those.

Pirates relief pitcher John Grabow completed two
scoreless innings in relief, but his colleagues weren't nearly so lucky at the Chicago Cubs clobbered Pittsburgh, 7-1.  His ERA is 5.32.... Youkilis who had been benched with a sore quadricep the last several games, came off the Boston Red Sox bench in the 12th inning as a pinch hitter but flied out.  That dropped his BA to .328 and his position in the tight American League batting derby to seventh.



 

                  
        News from the    
  Israel Baseball League

Tel Aviv Lightning snaps Bet Shemesh Blue Sox undefeated streak at 9 games on Pribble's pitching

GEZER, Israel July 8— Sunday night's game of the week on Arutz Sport5 gave IBL fans a chance to see the Tel Aviv Lightning hand the Bet Shemesh Blue Sox their first loss of the season, going down 3-1.
   
San Francisco native Aaron Pribble earned his third victory of the season with a dominating complete game, allowing one run on four hits to go along with seven strikeouts and no walks.  Pribble's performance gives him a 0.98 ERA and puts the second-place Lightning just 1.5 games behind the Sox.
 
Pribble

Tel Aviv scored all three runs in the second inning when centerfielder Bryan Langbord led off with his first career IBL homerun.  Designated hitter Matt Brill also provided some offense in the inning with an RBI single that made the score 2-0 and improved his batting average to .438.
                                                                        Langbord 
   
The win was Tel Aviv's fifth in a row to improve to 7-2 on the season
while the Blue Sox drop to 9-1.
   
The earlier game at Gezer Field between the Modi'in Miracle and the
Ra'anana Express produced the same score as the Miracle took the 3-1
victory.  The win puts the Miracle one game above .500 at 5-4 on the
season.
   
Australian Matt Bennett continued his excellent start to the season,
pitching a complete game two-hitter with ten strikeouts and four walks to improve to 2-0 with a 0.53 ERA.  Bennett's only mistake came in the fifth inning when right fielder Matt Castillo hit a homer
Bennett
to tie up thegame.
   
As has become expected, Dominican catcher Eladio Rodriguez led theMiracle offense with a 3-3 night.  Rodriguez hit his fourth homerun of the season, a solo shot in the sixth, as the Miracle pulled within 3.5 games of the first-place Blue Sox.                             
                                                                                                                                                               Rodriguez
Summaries:
                       1   2   3   4   5   6   7    R    H   E
Tel Aviv         0   0   3   0   0   0   0    3     9    1
Bet Shemesh   0   0   0   1   0   0   0    1    4     0
W: Aaron Pribble (3-0); L: Scott Perlman (1-1); HR: Bryan Langbord (1)

                     1   2   3   4   5   6   7   R    H   E
Modi'in           0   0   1   0   1   1   0    3    6    0
Ra'anana        0   0   0   1   0   0   0    1    2    1
W: Matt Bennett (2-0); L: Esequier Pie (0-2); HR: Matt Castillo (2),
Eladio Rodriguez (4)

Standings:
Team                             W    L     %     GB
Bet Shemesh Blue Sox    9     1     .900     –
Tel Aviv Lightning          7     2    .778     1.5
Modi'in Miracle               5     4    .556     3.5
Netanya Tigers                3     4     .429    4.5
Ra'anana Express             2     8     .200    7.0
Petach Tikva Pioneers     1    8      .111    7.5

Monday the Bet Shemesh Blue Sox host the Petach Tikva Pioneers at Gezer
Field at 5:00 pm and at 7:00 pm the Netanya Tigers visit the Ra'anana
Express at Yarkon Field at the Baptist Village.

 

       Story Continuations

Foreign Minister Downer...

(Continued from Above)

So for those sort of historic reasons, I've had a strong feeling for Israel.  One of the other reasons I have a strong feeling for Israel - when I come here and it's forty degrees it reminds me of Adelaide, it's like going home.  When I come here and look at Israeli politics it also reminds me of home.  The interesting way that Israelis conduct their politcs, the same robust - dare I say it - slightly rude way in which your politicians deal with each other, the volatility of your politics - a bit more volatile than ours. Yes, you've had more Foreign Ministers, as Stanley was pointing out, than we have over the last eleven years, but nevertheless the volatility, the confrontation, the partisanship of your politics is very familiar to us.

Of course in a broader sense Israel shares so many of the core values that Australia has as well.  Australia is the world's sixth oldest continuingly operating democracy; its democratic roots are very deep.  Israel is such a vibrant democracy as well, it's one of the great heartlands of modern democracy as well - the passionate belief in the freedom of the individual that we have in our own society.  There's something else about Israel that Australia shares as well and that is that your country seems to me to be a kind of brutally egalitarian society and we kind of like that in Australia.  Airs and graces don't go down very well in our country - that's why Europeans think that we're very noisy and perhaps a touch common [laughter].  But it's just that we're very egalitarian.  And I think that Israelis suffer from - if you could call it that - the same thing.  So there are those great sort of bonds of kinship, I guess, that we have.

We have in Australia a wonderful Jewish community about 100,000 strong.  They are just enormous contributors to our country.  Our country would not be the great country it is if not for our small but incredibly successful Jewish community in the professions, in business, not so much in politics in our country but there have been from time to time in politics - the first Australian-born Governor General of Australia was Jewish and we've had two Governors General - I think, two - who have been Jewish.  Jewish people have been an enormously important part of our society - continue to be - and we're very proud of that as well.

But I suppose on top of all of those things, in very recent years we have kind of been bound together yet again because of the way the world has evolved.  I suppose for Jewish people one of the most defining experiences is what happened to them in the 1930s and 1940s.  So for Jewish people they understand more than anyone else on earth the pain of the confrontation between liberal democrats, social democrats on the one side and fascism and Nazism on the other side and totalitarianism.  After that we had the confrontation between liberal and social democrats and Communism.  And I think when we got to 1990-91, the Berlin wall was torn down, Communism collapsed, it became a barren and bankrupt ideology.  The Soviet Union itself broke up, we thought it was, to use Francis Fukuyama's phrase, the end of world history, meaning that the great ideological confrontations had finished.  We thought that we could pocket a 'peace dividend' as they used to say in the early 1990s, we could put away our arms and spend that money on the things we'd truly love to spend it on - health and education, services and so on.

But then we were very brutally reminded, as time went on, that in fact the great conflicts were not over.  That the world still faces a great conflict, which I often define as a conflict between moderate people, between tolerant people, between caring people on the one hand and between extremists, and the intolerant and the uncaring on the other hand.  And the intolerance of a minority is an intolerance that causes great death and great suffering.

Now I ask myself what should we do about those who are intolerant, those who have ideologies which they wish to impose on others, and those who are prepared to cause suffering to others for the cause of an ideology because the ideology is more important than human life or it's more important than any individual, that in fact individuals don't count, the corporate ideology is what counts?  And this is what we see from the Islamic extremists from, in our part of the world, in south east Asia, from Jemaah Islamiyah, the Abu Sayyaf group, you see from Al Qaeda, and you see to some extent from both Hamas and Hizbollah right around you here in Israel.

Some people said that the best way to deal with Nazism was through a policy that was very fashionable and very popular in the 1940s called appeasement.  And we all know in this room that that policy was the wrong policy.  And yet it's so often repeated, despite the fact that we know it's the wrong way to deal with extremists we're still inclined to want to repeat it.  So when it came to the Soviet Union and the spread of Communism and the challenges that laid down some people thought, "Well that's the way the world is, we just have to find ways of accommodating it". 

A lot of you won't agree with me here, because you can see I don't mind always whether people agree or not, but I reckon one of the great speeches of the 20th century, or at least the second half of the 20th century, was Ronald Reagan's speech in 1987 in Berlin where he said, "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall".  The importance of that speech was that it was a speech where Reagan was saying, "I want to confront this type of regime, I want to confront this totalitarianism, and I want to defeat it".  And he and his successors and a number of other people - there were a lot of people involved in that victory, but they did.

When it's come to Islamic extremism and terrorism, there are still people who think we shouldn't confront it, and we shouldn't try to defeat it, and we should try to negotiate our way out of it.  I'm often reminded of the phrase that Osama bin Laden uses - you want to watch these people's videos - just as it was important to read Mein Kampf, so it is important to look at and take seriously what people like Osama bin Laden say.  And he says the West is a weak horse.  That if you keep confronting the weak horse for long enough eventually it will walk away, that it won't be able to sustain for a long time a campaign against extremism and terrorism.  And when I think about the debates that there are - the debates there are about what to do with Hamas or with Hizbollah and Al Qaeda - what should we be doing in Iraq and Afghanistan - should we let the Taliban take over and just go back home, go back to bed and have a cry at night.

Or, in our case, should we and the Americans and the British and others just walk out of Iraq and leave people like Al Qaeda and other extremists to play merry havoc in that country.  Imagine what that would mean for you nearby, here in Israel.  And people say that's the easy way, that's the way we should do it.  I keep thinking to myself, "It would be quite easy", and sometimes I think it might give us a bit of a boost in the polls if we were to do that sort of thing at home.  And then I think, "What will it mean for my children? What will it mean for future generations? What will it mean for you here in this country?" if in the end we show weakness, if we are weak horses, if we run away.  Will that mean these people themselves will disappear, will their ideology vanish?  Will they become our friends as a result of us being weak horses?  I think the answer to that is perfectly obvious.  And therefore when we think about confronting this great challenge that we have today, that you have of course right here in the forefront of it, and that we have to some lesser extent in south east Asia.

When we think about it we need to work with people who are like-minded, and we need to show a sturdy courage in continuing to confront it.  And I don't just mean a physical courage, and it certainly requires on the part of many people that above all and, I'm sorry to say, very often very sad sacrifice.  But also for politicians, a lot of political courage as well to continue to make their arguments in their own countries.  And some have done that and you know I've admired those people who have been prepared to do that in their countries, sometimes in the teeth of public opposition.

So I say all those things here in Israel on this wonderful evening here tonight, I think our countries have joined together in that great struggle that we have.  And what I want to see is an Israel that can live in peace, of course, in peace with its neighbours with two states there, with the State of Israel entirely secure.  You don't want to have to spend ten per cent of your GDP, as we were discussing, on defence, but much less, and with a Palestinian state too which is a secure and a prosperous place and a prosperous neighbour and a good neighbour for Israel.  And we want to see a world where people are able to live in freedom and democracy and I think Australia and Israel and a number of other countries know that can't be achieved for free - we do have to show strength if we are going to achieve those things.  And you know those of us who believe in those things - let's try to stick together, let's not argue too much and fall out with each other.

So, it's always an enormous pleasure for me for all of those reasons and I've talked about them at great length to be in Israel and to be here in Jerusalem.  Jerusalem is a spectacular city.  I always say to people there are about 10 cities you have to see before you die and one of those cities is Jerusalem.   It's a wonderful city, a controversial city, a very divided city, but a magnificent city.  I think Sydney actually - although a lot of people here come from Melbourne - [laughter]  don't worry, I'm from Adelaide, the city with the greatest football team [laughter] - but I think, just to look at, Sydney is one of the 10 cities you have to see.  So those of you who are Israelis who have never been to Sydney you must make sure you at least go there and perhaps go to Adelaide as well [laughter].  It has quite a small Jewish community, Adelaide, but a very good one.

So I'd like to, if you'll just let me, say once more  what an enormous honour it is to be here this evening.  It's a wonderful feeling to receive from Bar Ilan University the honorary doctorate, I appreciate that enormously, and I look forward to coming back before too long, after our election - confidently, in the same position I've got here today [applause].  The one thing that I definitely want on the record, Professor Kaveh, is that I would like to make a commitment to going to Bar Ilan University and giving a lecture there about some of the things that I believe in.  So, thank you very much.

The preceding speech was provided by Australia's Foreign Ministry

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